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June 22, 2007

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Thank you! Now I know what to ask for!

You're welcome. It's a weird, but useful tool. Asian people -- so clever!

I remember this! I haven't seen any Vietnamese groceries here (Mel, Australia) sell theready-made 'rau-muong-che'. My grandma and mother can shred the stems beautifully using a small knife - I can't. I will look for the splitter here. :)

Oh, do you know what my great find of the week is? 'Tuong Ban' (Bean Sauce from Ban Village) - made in US. It tastes very good though, very close to what i had back home. It will go well with steamed water spinach!!

There's pre-shredded water spinach stems in Melbourne? Oh, my, that's quite something. I tried using the knife method and lord it was hard -- like shredding green papaya by hand! We're modern girls so a little help from our gadget friends is fabulous.

I'm going to find that bean sauce you mentioned. It's made here so the markets must stock it. In the 1970s/80s, there was 'tuong cu da' which is quite good as far as bean sauces go. It's hard to prepare good bean sauce because of the particular fermentation cultures that are used in Vietnam, and who knows what else. But I'm cheered to know that 'tuong ban' passes your Hanoian test so I will check it out.

Andrea, I think I wasn't clear on my last comment. Sorry :).

No, there's no pre-shredded water spinach in Mel. Even the veg itself is not very fresh, and the stem is quite tough... I am quite particular on my water spinach, so I normally don't buy it in Mel. What I do is to eat them everyday when I have a chance to go back to Hanoi.

As for the bean sauce, I made a mistake (it must be the afternoon effect). It was 'tuong cu da', not 'tuong ban'. The US product passes my taste test though. It's pretty similar to the bean sauce that my grandma used to make. The US sauce might be a little sweeter, but it doesn't bother me...

Anh, there's not a decent supply of rau muong in Melbourne? Why not? With all the Asian people living there, there should be some farmer growing the stuff. Don't the Cantonese, Thai and Malay people miss it too?

Ah, tuong cu da -- that is good stuff. It is a bit sweet, the stuff made here. They carefully guard the secret sauce ever since they started producing it in the 1980s. I haven't had it in a while and will revisit it.

So you enjoy it as a dipping sauce. Do you mix it (pha) with anything or eat it straight? How else do you use the sauce. Decades ago, my family used to serve tuong cu da with thit bo nhung dam (thin sliced beef (eye of round), briefly dipped in acidulated water). It's been so long and now you have me thinking of it again...

Andrea, I am just a bit picky with the water spinach, that's all. The products here are quite tough, so I normally buy something else instead.

As for tuong cu da, my dad and I normally serve it straight from the bottle with fried tofu and steamed veg. You can add a bit of freshly sliced chili, too. My mom and sister can't stand the smell so they opt for fish sauce.

A great way of using tuong cu da is in fish braised in caramel sauce (ca kho). Just make it as per normal, but season with tuong cu da instead. Catfish is the best for this but my grandma also uses eels. This is the only way my mom and sister enjoy tuong cu da. And my dad and I are of course crazy over it.

So you'd use tuong cu da bean sauce instead of nuoc mam fish sauce to flavor the catfish kho with the caramel sauce? That sounds good. Funny that your mom and sister find the earthy pungency unbearable, when compared to fish sauce. The bean sauce does have a slight compelling, sour-savory quality.

I once had an unopened bottle for a little too long and it kind of overflowed in my pantry. The clean up wasn't bad. Best to store it in the fridge. I don't think it's sealed well like other condiments.

I need to know if you can juice rau muong i usually use spinich but id like to try something knew with good health benefits and no contamination.

Water spinach (Ipomoea aquatica) isn't botanically the same as regular spinach (Spinacia oleracea). Vietnamese people juice a few kinds of leafy greens (e.g., pennywort) but water spinach isn't one of them. You could certainly try but I don't know what the results would be like.

this is an interesting tool. we usually just chop them all up and stir fry with chili. i'll try splitting the stems next time. :)

Hi,

My mom and my aunt use Tuong Cu Da with a couple of tablespoons of Peanut Butter and some sugar. Is it best to taste out of the bottle or are these other ingredients ok? Plus, do you boil it or pour and use right out of the bottle?

Thank you

Hi,

Does anyone know how to make tuong cu da?

Tommy, I was kinda thinking of that myself yesterday. How'd you read my mind? I don't know how to make it but will put it on my to-do list this summer. I've gotten a terrible stomach ache from the Tuong Cu Da bean sauce sold at the Vietnamese markets. It's hard to tell how old it is. . .

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