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June 15, 2007

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Andrea, you are a saint.

As I mentioned to you, it's not that recipes for Pho Ga aren't available online. It's that almost all the recipes are so bad. They're just recipes for chicken noodle soup. And weakly flavored soups at that. In some cases, it seemed as if recipe-writers were confusing Pho Ga with Mien Ga and the resulting noodle soup was neither.

If one is living in a city with live poultry markets or Amish butcher stalls or a great farm market, a mature free-range chicken is a good choice. For cooks and shoppers who lack those options, I think the best choice in a chicken might be a stewing hen. The broth will be rich and, if properly cooked, the thin slices of meat will have become tender.

I don't use coriander seeds or cilantro in my broth. My own preference for flavoring the broth is to use the charred onion and ginger and cloves as you do, but then I do use the star anise, which is also traditional for beef Pho. I don't use any cinnamon though - some people do, I prefer not.

The real point is that this is not a one-note broth, a good Pho Ga broth is rich, a harmony of many notes and flavors. If one doesn't want to stew both a whole bird *and* the extra chicken parts, I think it *can* be OK to omit the extra parts and instead stew the bird in plain chicken stock, rather than water. Plain, as in chicken stock that was *not* made with carrots and celery and herbs, etc. It's a bit of a shortcut or cheat, but as long as the resulting broth is rich I think it's reasonable, and probably convenient for some people.

Andrea, I always tell people to NOT garnish soups or dishes with the chopped cilantro at the end. I tell them to put that into a small bowl and allow people to garnish their own. The reason is, as I've learned, some Americans are SO averse to cilantro, they dislike it SO profoundly, that adding it to their food can ruin it for them. And those who dislike cilantro REALLY dislike Ngo Gai (culantro)... "Why... WHY did you put that chopped Soap Leaf into my food?"

Simon, stewing hens -- which are great for coq au vin -- are hard to find these days. It's so sad! You used to be able to find them in many markets. On the West Coast, it was chains like Luckys. I occasionally see them in the frozen in the Asian markets but you don't know how long they've been sitting in the cold.

Each person has their own seasoning for chicken pho broth. I just don't think it ought to be flavored like the beefy pho bo. Several years ago, I tried an institutional version of pho broth made for cafeterias, etc and the maker used chicken instead of beef bones but flavored it just like beef pho. It just wasn't right and lacked the fatty beef mouthfeel.

I feel sorry for people who don't like cilantro; some of them are my dear friends. Just a little at the end is lovely. As for culantro, I can take it or leave it. The flavor is never as strong as I think it ought to be. Frankly, it's an overrated herb in my book. The only thing I mind about Ngo Gai (thorny cilantro is one of its aliases) are the itty bitty thorns, which can scratch my throat.

Vietnamese food is the "have it your way" cuisine. People shouldn't present things and mix up pho ga with mien ga (which is made with cellophane noodles not rice noodles). Here in the Bay Area, pho ga is sometimes served with wide chow fun noodles. I have no idea why. Someone should stop that.

I was searching for some Vietnamese recipes and came across your site. I had found many helpful and practical informations provided by you. Thank you and please keep with the good work.

Truc, You're very welcome!

I made Pho Ga last night - after my kids went to bed I was still hungry and had a bird in the fridge. So what did I do? Spent the next 2 hours making Pho Ga and ate a big bowl at around midnight. heehee! Its perfect midnight eatin' food!

I learned how to make Beef Pho and Pho Ga from an old Vietnamese boyfriend whose family owned a Pho restaurant in Houston. His recipe is almost the same as yours - after toasting coriander and star anise, we put them in a tea ball so that we can easily fish them out. I also roast the ginger and onion, but since I'm too lazy to go outside to the BBQ grill, just stick it in the elec oven on broil. It doesn't char as nicely, but i guess thats what I get for being lazy!

I also add a bunch of stems of the cilantro in the tea ball. Since the leafy part is used as finishing the soup, the stems go in the broth - nice clean flavor.

Thanks for the recipe! I just ordered your book last night (as I was waiting for the broth to cook) and should come in from Amazon in the next couple of days. I can't wait to try your Bun Bo Hue recipe. Its my fav soup.

Jaden

So cool Jaden. Thanks! Bet your kids are in for a nice surprise today! I'm flattered and delighted that you've purchased a copy of the book.

I just tried this recipe last night and had it with a couple of friends and it was really REALLLY good! Such a comfort on a cold and damp autumn night here in the Netherlands. Then had another bowl this morning. Breakfast of champions!

I LOVE UR RECIPE. MY FIRST TIME COOKING PHO. IT COME OUT TO BE VERY DELIOUS. I WOULD BUY UR RECIPE BOOK! THANK YOU

My husband and I are from Houston, TX, where there is a pho restaurant in every strip mall. But we just moved to the Texas hill country where no one has even heard of pho. We made this recipe hoping for something similar to what we get in Houston, and it was awesome. We served it with sliced jalapeno peppers (like they do in pho restaurants in Houston), and I made it with a free range roaster chicken I bought at Whole Foods. I will definitely make this again. Thanks for taking the time to post such thorough directions.

You're very welcome, Denise!

There is nothing like a good Chicken Recipe, Chicken is quite simply the best food in the world because of it's versatility. You can make thousands of chicken recipes and every one of them will be different and taste great. ENJOY!!

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Thank you so much for sharing this recipe! My husband loves pho, and I surprised him with this when he got home from work this evening. Normally I don't get more than a 'This is pretty good' at dinnertime; Tonight I got the remark of 'This is truly amazing'. And I have to agree! Never thought I'd get to say such a thing about food - Amazing! Thank you so much!

I recently moved to the hill country outside Austin from Sacramento California. Pho is my favorite food. In Sacramento there are many great Pho houses. My daughter is Hmong and misses her native foods, so I learned to prepare Pho soon after adopting her. This receipt isn't Hmong Pho but it's yummy. My family loved it! Thank you so much.
I will be purchasing your book for all three of my daughters.

Sherry, I love Sacramento and there are indeed many excellent pho shops there. I was mightily impressed. Some of the best bowls I've had in the U.S, as a matter of fact.

And now, you're in Austin, a city I hope to visit for the great food and culture scene. Happy cooking!

Andrea

I love Vietnamese foods especially soups, they always have the best flavor.

Is there an alternative for the Rock Sugar?

What are the best chicken parts to use? (I can only find chicken necks, drunsticks, wings, etc...)

Thanks!!

never cooked pho before. looking forward to it

I just made the chicken pho. I was initially skeptical about putting cilantro in the broth but my family and loved it. The aroma comingn out of the kitchen was wonderful. I rushed out to the bookstore to get a copy of your book. It's beautiful and inspiring. My family and I fled Vietnam in 1975 and reading your introduction brings back lots of memories. I can't wait to make these recipes that I grew up with. Thanks for sharing your recipes with us. I am so happy that there is finally an authentic Vietnamese cookbook out here!

My husband and I are phonatic about pho. We have tried several recipes and this one hits the mark! We are fortunate to have many pho restaurants available to us in Seattle however we are moving to Montana soon and have our hopes on opening our own pho restaurant, so we are constantly practicing our pho-making skills. Thanks for putting out such a great recipe--one that actually tastes rich and delicious--of course we have added our own secret ingredient....

Katherine, music to my ears! Keep up your pho-naticism.

I love to cook For my lady and our kids but have never challenged myself with quite these expectaions. I am not shy in the kitchen at all I was making homemade flour tortillas in my moms kitchen at the age of 12(not rolling the dough either made the maza from moms recipe where she never measured anything just did it by her senses' she was trying to keen mine in). Here I go I will keep yall posted with the outcome.

Andrea I tried your Chicken Pho recipe (okay well I took a lot of shortcuts). Anyway I mentioned it in my blog! www.gorfamily.blogspot.com

Thanks!

Janie, THANK YOU!

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